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I have an old piece of Frankoma that my mother had bought along with several other pieces back in the very early 50's. I was born in 1952, they married in late 1950. This creamer (?) measures 5" tall, 4 1/2" wide not including handle. The front & back if a thunderbird with rainclouds over their heads & more Indian design around them, green & brown coloring, Frankoma is INCISED on the bottom which is unglazed & it looks as tho there is a number 104 under the "oma" part of Frankoma, That number is also pressed into the clay but not as deep as the name. Anyone know about this piece?

Thanks, Margie

Oh by the way-I have pics if someone could tell me how to add them to this.

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It sounds like your mother made a very wise purchase. I believe your pitcher, as you describe it, is a #59K Thunderbird Pitcher. The #59K is 5 inches tall, as you said. It was manufactured for one year only -- 1942. Since it had a short run, there were not that many made, which accounts for its book value of $225-275. There is a photo of this piece in Prairie Green, which is the same color as yours, on page 100 of Gary V. Schaum's book, "Collector's Guide to Frankoma Pottery."

Congratulations! You are in the enviable position of possessing an excellent piece of vintage Frankoma.

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I have an old piece of Frankoma that my mother had bought along with several other pieces back in the very early 50's. I was born in 1952, they married in late 1950. This creamer (?) measures 5" tall, 4 1/2" wide not including handle. The front & back if a thunderbird with rainclouds over their heads & more Indian design around them, green & brown coloring, Frankoma is INCISED on the bottom which is unglazed & it looks as tho there is a number 104 under the "oma" part of Frankoma, That number is also pressed into the clay but not as deep as the name. Anyone know about this piece?

Thanks, Margie

Oh by the way-I have pics if someone could tell me how to add them to this.

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Is this like you were talking about, plm555? Thank you, Margie

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That's the one!

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I almost put that ebay the other day for $20 then I thought that I needed to look into it more cause I knew nothing about it. Now I do know a lot about it, thank you to you, plm555, and it will go back onto the shelf. In fact, it will go inside my china cabinet.

Thank you plm555, Margie

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I agree, but it does meet the criteria of a 59K in all other respects. And she did say "it looks as tho there is a number 104," so I'm thinking the mark could be anything. Perhaps this was just a mis-marked piece.

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I agree, but it does meet the criteria of a 59K in all other respects. And she did say "it looks as tho there is a number 104," so I'm thinking the mark could be anything. Perhaps this was just a mis-marked piece.

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Thanks, Margie, for the photo. I can't make out anything under the stamp. Could you take another photo of the entire bottom of the piece? Don't worry about getting so close; it's hard to get a good, sharp focus when you're that close.

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Thanks, Margie, for the photo. I can't make out anything under the stamp. Could you take another photo of the entire bottom of the piece? Don't worry about getting so close; it's hard to get a good, sharp focus when you're that close.

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Thanks, Margie, for the photo. I can't make out anything under the stamp. Could you take another photo of the entire bottom of the piece? Don't worry about getting so close; it's hard to get a good, sharp focus when you're that close.

Now that I cleaned it somewhat & gently - I don't see the numbers that I thought I saw. It turns out to be the clay & swirls (sort of swirls). But I also don't see anything else. This sat in mom's kitchen window til the day she died then it sat in mine.

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Well, good. That knocks out any uncertainty about your pitcher. Now, go put it back in the china cabinet. :)

I agree.

Frankoma pieces without the numbers are quite common so there's no surprise with that. Frankoma pieces with the WRONG number would be quite unusual.

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